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Carnegie Director of Nonproliferation Joseph Cirincione was interviewed on January 4, 2006, by Bernard Gwertzman, consulting editor for cfr.org.

Cirincione says the increasing "hard line" of Iran's new president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, has pushed the Europeans and Amerians closer together in agreeing that Iran's continuing efforts to expand its nuclear program should be brought before the Security Council for possible action. But he says he does not know if sanctions will be agreed upon there.

While Cirincione, an expert on nuclear issues, does not think Iran has yet made the decision to make nuclear weapons, he does think Iran wants to have the ability to do so in the future if circumstances demand.

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